Could you..

How can you possibly ever have enough factual proof that a person should definately die.
I don't know if anyone has the right to saying "This person deserves to die."

I noticed this topic on Gaming World, so I'm gonna throw in my two pennies here.

Penny #1: Honestly, who's likely to admit to something like this on an internet forum? Talk about leaving a rice trail... The World Wide Web is not a safe place to air your opinions. I've posted things on Facebook before that people have taken completely out of context; whereas had they heard me actually say it, they would've been able to deduce from my tone and gesturing that I was faffing around.

So let's say my answer to your question was "YES!". I'd then be hit with a hail of hatred.

"Have you no respect for human life?! Had your mother known about this whilst she was pregnant she would've surely rammed a coathanger up her clack and aborted such an abomination before it got its first glimpse of the Lord's light!"

But contrary to what the above may imply, I actually have no answer to your question. I've never considered it, to be honest. I personally don't believe I have the right to take someone's life, but at the same time I can't fully comprehend someone's right to live. Why does a person deserve to live? What do they have to live for? Of what importance is their continuing existence?

It's similar to my views on global warming (de-capitalised intentionally). The way I see it, the human race is just squatting. We do not own this planet. There's no official documentation that states that we, Mankind, have a right to pitch the tent on planet Earth. Actually, there's no legal copyright on the name "Earth" (in regard to the planet), therefore it is not even officially "Earth".

Tell me: what right does the human race (again, intentionally de-capitalised) have to exist? I maintain a stance of indifference on the subject. I am not qualified to decide whether humanity (blah blah) deserves to exist, and neither is anyone else.

Penny #2: Someone on GW said that they would gladly go back in time and kill Hitler, but they're failing to acknowledge just how crucial the Third Reich's bloody crusade was to the technological advancement of the human race. The World Wars (including the Cold War; which was, in essence, a World War) prompted a boom in scientific research to meet up with the demands of the warmongers.

The comforts that we take for granted today (including the keyboard I am currently typing this long-winded shiz on) are undoubtedly a product of this proliferation. Heck, the framework for the World Wide Web was initially created to establish inter-communication between military computers!

And if Hitler didn't stand up and proclaim his wishes to re-establish Germany's former glory, somebody else would've done. Why? Deutschland didn't exactly have the easiest time adjusting to a post-World War I world. It was bound to happen eventually; Hitler wasn't the only one with a grudge to bear, y'know.

Fur you scare me more and more each day.

Hitler didn't kill any fucking jews

<speechless>

Aye! There's no evidence to suggest that Adolf Hitler was directly responsible for the death of a single Jew (in the puliing the trigger sense, not the "I condone the slaughter of an entire race" sense).

It's like everyone banging on about how George Bush is [solely] responsible for everything his administration has set into motion.

Free if Done something so horrible to the world, and myself is directly affected in a bad way. Say they killed Billions all so that they could "make the world better" and someone I truly cared for died with it.

10 Million for the lowest of scum of criminals.

15 Million for someone who would kill his own comrades and have no second thought.

20 Million for heads of big business if proven to be cruel enough.

50 Million for some average man off the street if the reason was good enough.

Would not do it for someone who was in a horrible life like living in a trailer park or some homeless person. Or Just a plain good person.

Yes, I know I'll probably get shit for that, but its how I truly feel.

I can't judge my reaction to something like this in such a detached state.
It's real easy to sit back in your computer chair and say "Yeah, sure, I'd kill a guy if I had to," but when I think about a real life situation, I just don't really know enough about myself or my character in such events to make even a wild guess at my behavoir.
I'd like to think I could kill someone if I had to. I'd like to think that I could logically weigh the risks and benefits to make a decision, but what is a life really worth is what I should ask myself at this point. Do I even have the right to take someone's life? What happens when they die? What am I condemning this person to? What am I taking from them? You can't take money with you when you die. That's true. Money is only good while I'm still here. Maybe I'll regret stealing someone's time away for some stupid green paper. Does anyone derserve to die when they have time left? It depends on what lies beyond, and, as far as I know, nobody knows the answer to that question.

I'm rambling now. Summarized, I would say, "I don't know,"

Let me rephrase that then. The Nazis didn't kill ant fucking jews.

I'm not being an asshole at all; I say it with all sincerity.

First of all, here is no proof for the current holocuast story. Period. Every bit of the information gathered is by anecdotal and falsified evidence. If you take into account the time it would have taken to murder, move, cremate and bury, it would have been impossible to dispose of 11million bodies that the Nazis allegedly killed. The amount of ashes leftover from the cremated corpses would have been monumental. there's no way they could have been disposed of without notice.

The rooms for the gas chambers had obviously been modified after the liberation to look like gas chambers, and there is no evidence of cyanide gas being used for murder. (but it was used to delouse the clothes and stop the spread of typhus, which was a major problem of the time). also, if the nazis really didn't care about the religios beliefs of the jews and christians or anyone else besides themselves.. why did they build churches for them then? or give them an olympic sized swimming pool?

And you forget the fact that we did the same thing here; the difference is though: we imprisoned people solely based on race. the nazis imprisoned people based on being a genuine threat to them (the jews declared war on germany several years before the holocaust)

and links:
Is the Holocuast a Hoax?
66 questions and answers on the Holocaust
David Cole in Auschwitz (1 of 7) (get over the fact that his voice is annoying)
Holocaust Denial Revision Movie

also

I fuckin lol'd

Yes, I've heard all of those old Holocaust bed time stories as well, but just like the Bible, popular belief doesn't make it reality. It still doesn't account for the mathematical (time and space) improbability of killing and disposing of 6million jews and 5million non-jews between 1942 and 1945.
I didn't say the bodies weren't burned, I said they people weren't murdered. Of course bodies were burned; there was a typhus epidemic and they had to burn the bodies of the dead to stop the spread of the disease which would have killed more people.
People were starving in the camps because the allies were bombing supply trains going to the camps, depriving the inmates of food.
(you still haven't shown any evidence for the alleged genocide, aside from falliable anecdotal evidence)

Jewish economic boycott of Germany, 1933. It was after Hitler's anti-semetic actions, and he used it as a reason to imprison Jews during the war. I'm not saying Hitler didn't hate the jews/protestants/gypsies/etc, I'm saying he didn't send them to camps to be exterminated, just as a security measure to keep them from possibly foiling his Europe dominating scheme.

And I don't take offence about Hitler not giving us credit because we really didn't contribute all that much really (we were already sending the allies supplies). The only reason we joined, like in WW2, was purely self-interest.

I never thought that the Holocaust could be a conspiracy.

Still think you're out of your mind, though.

I was correcting NPX. Mew started it.

Civil war. I'm on the side that hates the niggers.

I don't honestly think i could kill a person. I just don't think I would have it in me. Strange, considering I'm joining the Army. 'Course, I'm in a non-combat MO, but still, I don't think this is the kind of question I can answer without actually being put in the situation.

I'm aware that this post may get me banned, but I couldn't care less.

On the subject of people who deserve to die, I'll go out on a limb and say that GrooveBean is one of those people. Sharing the views of terrorists like Ahmadinejad, of the Holocaust never happening, is something that shocks me more than anything else I can dream of. Let's see if you would have called my grandfather a liar after hearing his stories about his whole family --my family -- being ruthlessly and strategically murdered one after another. Let's see if you would not have been stunned and appalled at humanity had you actually been to the extermination camps in Poland and seen the remnants - the clothes, the shoes, the glasses, the hair, just like I did a few months ago. Perhaps this would be a wake-up call:

And perhaps you'll choose to remain ignorant and a specimen of human filth like you are now. Perhaps some day, when you've grown half a brain, you would acknowledge the gravity of your statements.

Ahem. Yes. Lets keep it calm, gentlemen. That reaction was extreme. Groovebean's view is ridiculous, but I'm fairly certain he's just doing it for shock value. No need to blow things out of proportion.

Oh my.
I guess it was a little funny, maybe.
But not really.

Lol?

You're too convincing.
I thought you were serious.

Kafen, your mind is so askew nowadays I really didn't know what to think.

Probably.

wait wait wait

what's a jew?

PROTIP: barry is a jew.

Yeah. But let me add this little bit: While I don't think the holocaust was a hoax, I DO think that the numbers were very inflated (seriously, 11million people in 3 years by such an inefficient method?). And this is supported by the fact that even Holocaust experts will admit that the number has risen since the war, largely due to propaganda (mostly by the russians/poles). It's also where you get the stories of Jew soap/lampshades/experiments, which have been disproven.

My mother has a friend who fucking worships John Hagee; has all ofhis books/tapes/cds, watches him on TV almost 24/7, and actually believes the shit that he says. I had to tell her that I thought she was fucking pathetic.

well make yo case then, nigga. tell me how I've been more strange than before (in a PM mayb)