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An apology

Hello, RPG Town.

As you may have noticed, I am no longer an administrator. I really can't get into details as to what has happened, but... I've really done something truly terrible.

So suffice to say, as of today (Thursday, May 30th, 2008) I am no longer a part of the RPG Town forums or website. I'm sorry that I will not be around.

To the members I have known, I hope this will not tarnish the image you may have developed of me. Specifically the members I have known for a while, or get on well with, namely Zatham, Justice, Shiggy, BBJ and NPX. I will understand if you feel betrayed.
Thanks, and sorry.

- holloway

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This will be the last we hear of him. As part of our final understanding about this matter, I let him post one last time to say goodbye, but the reasons for his departure are too disgusting for us to showcase. I've removed references to his...materials...and holloway has been banned and is no longer welcome here.

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Ooo, a scandal! PM me what he did, Mew! or... *goes on AIM*

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What? So he was banned for just one thing?
No matter how horrible his crime, he was a valuable member, was he not?
This seems a bit harsh.

Not that I knew the guy, or anything.


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Savy @ May 29 2008, 09:10 PM wrote:

What? So he was banned for just one thing?
No matter how horrible his crime, he was a valuable member, was he not?
This seems a bit harsh.

Not that I knew the guy, or anything.

...Dude... no. Wow, no. What he got is not even close to what he SHOULD have gotten.

I actually think these posts should be deleted and this thread locked, mew. He said what he said, and people can read it if they want. No need to continue any discussion on the matter.

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Wow. From admin to banned in the few hours it took for me to make and eat dinner. Well, at least you let him say his farewells, I guess.

There are four truths in life that all must come to terms with:
1. I will die and all that I am will cease to be.
2. I am born alone and will die alone. I can never truly know another.
3. The suffering in my life is my own creation. I create my reality through my choices.
4. ALL meaning is arbitrary and relative. Life is ultimately meaningless.

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I need to ask him what he did

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You really don't.


On hiatus. Blame holloway.
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Damn, i liked holloway. I have no idea what could have been bad enough to get him banned. Was it a post he made or something?

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this is my first threat in RPG Palace

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Well, that is to bad. Goodbye Holloway, I hardly knew thee.

P.s. I can't believe that he done something bad enough that he was banned right away. I believe this is a little harsh. I mean wtf is so bad that it gets your admin position striped and you get threw completely out of the forum forever?!?

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Let me guess. Deleted.

'tis fishy, m'laddos! I shall consult Mr. Holloway on the issue, post-haste!

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What peculiar timing.

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edit: you know what, I really thought this was a joke, but after speaking to you and hearing your lame attempts at justification I don't think I could articulate what a sick fuck you are.

good riddance.

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hurm...

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Woah what the.. I see your in need of a new staff member :cool: *Shameless plug* haha.

Man the fact he didn't say what just make you think "I wonder what it was?" but for something like this to happen so fast it must have been some along the lines of.. I cant even say.


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Holloway did say so in his initial post but I had to modify it. If you people really want to know then you can ask me or another member that seems to know, but I don't want the information accessible or the site, because I don't want the reputation to get around to other forums.

And Tau mentioned the absence of our administrator has left a vacant position. A more...veteran member would be preferable, but I am looking for candidates.

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Well, after conducting a little research, it turns out that I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THIS! STAY THE FUCK AWAY, YOU DIRTY, ROTTEN C**T!!

Like Furb said: lock this shit down, Mew! He's had his say, now he can fuck off!

P.S. Please excuse the excessive "fuck"ing, but this is seriously "fucked"-up business. Damn, I never would've thought it... and to think the Khakain attack almost ruined the Town...

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Guys, there's a bit of a problem. Looking at the online users for a bit, I noticed that holloway is still signing on (as invisible), even though he's been banned. But the problem is, his name's got the red, bold marker that says he's an admin still:

I tried to remove all of his admin privileges, but I'll be going in again to try and fix whatever he's done with some leftover powers, or failsafes that he may have put in place to keep around.

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He's a hacker. Didn't he hack rmxp.org a while back?

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OK, I've got to come clean, this was a prank that we had laid out. Wonder why it went nowhere? Another opportunity arose and we decided to have fun that way. Soon after posting this, I received a PM on Wheedonia from Keios saying:

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So it wasn't really you over at the palace or what? You said you were hosting it for other people?

I would fight this dude.

Seems nice enough? Well Mew had just told him to go digging and ivnestigate this matter. I decided to see his hand and let him go again first. I could provide a commentary, but I'll let the logs do the talking:

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Me: What?
Keios: Them banning just you and making you turn out looking like a dick.
Me: Its good you've got an open mind. I can understand its not a normal interest, but its not a perversion. Did you know most under 7s WANT to do it? Its natural, even the Muslim prophet fucked little kids. I can give you access to our kids stuff if you want.
Keios: I don't have nothing against it if there like 13 or something. I just don't like the really young shit.
Keios: But hell yea i want access.
Me: Brilliant, you can find a real honeypot of stuff here: http://www.thestash.co.nr Good hunting!
Keios: ha ha funny stuff. I knew you were lying before.
Me: How is this funny? You're details are now on a database.
Keios: >_> My details are in all kinds of databases. I own like 6 domains. Plus i haven't done anything wrong yet.
Me: You knowingly tried to access child porn, how is that ever OK?
Keios: Um, I know what a honeypot is. And i forwarded the url to another person too. ie The only reason im on this dumbass site is for meu.
Me: You forwarded it on? So you shared child pornography. Sharing is 9 fifths of the law- the cyber police will be round for you soon. Step away from your computer and no-one will be hurt.

I have to say I am loling really hard now. I'd like to thank Mew who helped run this and Shiggy and NPX for making me piss myself.

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ha ha ha thats the last time i do anything for meu!

simon38 @ Jun 8 2008, 08:41 AM wrote:

this is my first threat in RPG Palace

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I am, however, no joking when I said I will be stepping down. In the next few days I'll be resigning as I just don't have the time/ interest to help run this place anymore. Thanks for the run guys.

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ha ha ha thats the last time i do anything for meu!

You've just been outed as a pervert and this is what you say? Internet police will not be happy to put down their donuts over this matter.

Edit: This is all funny and all, but, seriously Keios, what the fuck were you thinking?

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i would say sad to see ya go but im still a bit confused.

Plus your a dick.

Wait a minute! Thats not how the logs went. You added in a whole bunch of shit about 13 year olds and hebrews lol.

And i had an elaborate scheme going. Meu told me to nose around over there or something (haven't slept in days) then you say something about a hidden forum. I was like wtf? Ok ill see were this goes then ill give meu my pass and he can look in the forum for hiself.

but haha i turn up looking like a perverted jackass.

simon38 @ Jun 8 2008, 08:41 AM wrote:

this is my first threat in RPG Palace

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I was a little confused and a little concerned about this thread, so I didn't bother posting at all before, but when this popped up on my facebook page:

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Shig to Myo
"lol".

want me to act like you told me and i'm all offended and srs n stuff?

I suddenly realised what was going on!

Can't say I was amused particularly, but then again if you were stepping down anyway it must have seemed a shame not to pull some sort of prank!

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*sigh* and here I am, I sent a response PM to Keios this morning before reading that you already ended it (that was last night, good good). And I wanted to keep it going for another week at least, see where we could take it. I was hoping that somebody would show up as a great candidate for admin and then do something really funny like deck out the forums in an all-cow skin...or something stupid like that. Alas.

But so long as we've stopped the joke, holloway will be truly missed. as a faithful admin. But seeing as how we have three more, I don't think we need another to replace him. The only admin stuff that really needs doing anyway involves programming experience.

lol, I'm just glad I don't have to keep a straight face on teh internets.

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*sigh*... Now I need to reraise my List of Fail with 5 entries of just Myo? Undecided

EDIT:

rey meustrus @ May 31 2008, 01:18 PM wrote:

...The only admin stuff that really needs doing anyway involves programming experience...

AHEM! You KNOW that I exist, rock ass, and am not as sick-minded as Myo, right? Sticking Out Tongue

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Bip, I'm afraid of what you would do as an administrator. That and the fact that it sure would say something about us as a forum if we promoted the most outspoken seemingly anti-n00b member we have to admin. Maybe if you show me you can conduct yourself with the objectiveness of a moderator?

Mind you, I'm still laughing from this whole thing, so anything I say should be taken light-heartedly.

But I am glad that I no longer have to go around pretending that I'm far too busy fixing the smut to post in all the other topics. I mean, it would hardly seem appropriate to do so if I actually had seen what I claimed to have seen.

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rey meustrus @ May 31 2008, 01:28 PM wrote:

Bip, I'm afraid of what you would do as an administrator. That and the fact that it sure would say something about us as a forum if we promoted the most outspoken seemingly anti-n00b member we have to admin. Maybe if you show me you can conduct yourself with the objectiveness of a moderator?

I WOULD DELETE EVERYONE WHO EVER SPOKE BADLY OF ME IN THE PAST AND SUMMON HADES TO WIPE THIS FORUM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

May I remind you that I have my OWN website, where I have absolute and complete control over everything and everyone, and yet STILL have 600+ active members (would have about 2,000 if I didn't delete year+ old accounts), and NO bans or unnecessary account deletions? Sticking Out Tongue

rey meustrus @ May 31 2008, 01:28 PM wrote:

But I am glad that I no longer have to go around pretending that I'm far too busy fixing the smut to post in all the other topics. I mean, it would hardly seem appropriate to do so if I actually had seen what I claimed to have seen.

So you abruptly leaving me on AIM to "go eat" was a total LIE!? IS THAT ALL IT IS WITH YOU!? SECRETS AND LIES!? IT'S ALWAYS SECRETS AND LIES! *emo tear*

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this joke wasn't funny

it brought back memories

bad memories

...uncle peter...no...no...

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Bip, I'd just like to see you act more objectively first. But if you'd like to help with the site right now, I can give you something to do which involves XHML. Inquire within...

And no, I really did have to go eat. I just wasn't posting, although I signed onto the forums a lot, so as to give the illusion that I was just busy in the admin panel or something. Also giving the impression to people that I was working constantly on the site when I was really just playing a computer game Wink

Justice, for some reason I don't believe you. Are you being serious or not?

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rey meustrus @ May 31 2008, 03:36 PM wrote:

Bip, I'd just like to see you act more objectively first. But if you'd like to help with the site right now, I can give you something to do which involves XHML. Inquire within...

XHTML? I don't do XHTML... I do HTML 4.01... but I already use all lower case, just not the /> thing at the end of non-closing tagged tags.

XML though maybe? Also don't do that. I haven't even come close to needing anything it offers, so have not needed to use it. Smile

i r 4 PHP onli!

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The main thing about XHTML is that it separates clearly between content and style. The ultimate goal of XHTML is to make the html file look more and more like XML, and to have style controlled entirely by CSS. To this end, a lot of markup has become deprecated in the XHTML Strict definition, like <font> and <table>. Except where it applies to forms, the name="" modifier has become deprecated as well. But it's the table thing that kills most of it, and the align="" modifier as well which is also deprecated in the Transitional definition, even though <table> isn't.

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Perhaps I'm a little ignorant to this kind of stuff. And I clicked that link that Holloway posted after I read Keios' post saying:

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Keios: ha ha funny stuff. I knew you were lying before.

Hence I clicked to see what the "lie" was about and what was so funny about it. Then I saw that warning message and realized what the context of the post was. I seriously hope that's a joke in its entirety, I'm click happy and the way this whole thread is presented gave the impression it was one big elaborate joke, and leads one to be inquisitive and see what the "joke" was about.

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Yeah, I almost clicked that link too, until I read "honeypot" in bold. Sucks for you.

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What the hell is a honeypot.

EDIT: Nvm, I goggled it.

You have some pretty messed up members. Stuff like that are no joke.

EDIT 2: You know, when you click that link it says that the username is "Keios" instead of "Bloodrose". Why is that?

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By the way, I only ever asked Keios to form a team and investigate. I never told him to go undercover-cop on Myo:

Keios wrote:

Woa. I feel for ya man. I dunno what i would have done.

But look at this:

holloway wrote:

They found the child porn I was hosting for Jakey and Kefka.

Holloway said it over at that weed place. Maybe theres more people involved?

meustrus wrote:

I'd like it if you could follow up on some of this, get some other members with you too, because I have my hands full just taking care of his mess and this new weirdness about him in the active users list.

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rey meustrus @ May 31 2008, 05:57 PM wrote:

The main thing about XHTML is that it separates clearly between content and style. The ultimate goal of XHTML is to make the html file look more and more like XML, and to have style controlled entirely by CSS. To this end, a lot of markup has become deprecated in the XHTML Strict definition, like <font> and <table>. Except where it applies to forms, the name="" modifier has become deprecated as well. But it's the table thing that kills most of it, and the align="" modifier as well which is also deprecated in the Transitional definition, even though <table> isn't.

'k... I use tables for EVERYTHING, dude... There's just no way to use CSS to properly space out and position elements the way a table does without actually USING a table. Why would you want to use XHTML anyway?

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Wait, so is this crap real? Someone is actually hosting a child porn site? Why is he even still a staff member?

EDIT: Nvm, I reread the entire thread.

Let this be a lesson to me (and to everyone), never to read between the lines and click too damn fast.

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Double post.

Oh, haha! Very funny guys. Ok, haha! The joke's on me.

-The domain taskforce.com does not exist.
-The message was misspelled "polciing" instead of "policing"
-The log consistently displays Keios' information and IP, not mine, regardless if it is tested on a different computer.
-And the message ends with "Good day", very typical and forum like
-Bears no stamped logo of any governing body
-The contact email does not bounce back as a legitimate email address

You are all probably laughing behind my back. I hate you all (ok not really), you are not to speak to me for 3 whole minutes.

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..... Are you sure this didn't give it away.

http://www.rpg-palace.com/stop.php

EDIT: Oh yea, i know CSS, HTML, PHP and i can do mysql through trial and error. Its not all that hard.

http://keiosbb.com

simon38 @ Jun 8 2008, 08:41 AM wrote:

this is my first threat in RPG Palace

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No, because it does not show up as under rpg-palace... clicking on the original link is masked as "http://www.thestash.co.nr/" in the url. lol

Although admittedly, I should've checked the source code. It would've shown rpg-palace.

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OK, I've got to come clean, this was a prank that we had laid out. Wonder why it went nowhere? Another opportunity arose and we decided to have fun that way. Soon after posting this, I received a PM on Wheedonia from Keios saying:

QUOTE
So it wasn't really you over at the palace or what? You said you were hosting it for other people?

I would fight this dude.

Seems nice enough? Well Mew had just told him to go digging and ivnestigate this matter. I decided to see his hand and let him go again first. I could provide a commentary, but I'll let the logs do the talking:

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Me: What?
Keios: Them banning just you and making you turn out looking like a dick.
Me: Its good you've got an open mind. I can understand its not a normal interest, but its not a perversion. Did you know most under 7s WANT to do it? Its natural, even the Muslim prophet fucked little kids. I can give you access to our kids stuff if you want.
Keios: I don't have nothing against it if there like 13 or something. I just don't like the really young shit.
Keios: But hell yea i want access.
Me: Brilliant, you can find a real honeypot of stuff here: http://www.thestash.co.nr Good hunting!
Keios: ha ha funny stuff. I knew you were lying before.
Me: How is this funny? You're details are now on a database.
Keios: >_> My details are in all kinds of databases. I own like 6 domains. Plus i haven't done anything wrong yet.
Me: You knowingly tried to access child porn, how is that ever OK?
Keios: Um, I know what a honeypot is. And i forwarded the url to another person too. ie The only reason im on this dumbass site is for meu.
Me: You forwarded it on? So you shared child pornography. Sharing is 9 fifths of the law- the cyber police will be round for you soon. Step away from your computer and no-one will be hurt.

I have to say I am loling really hard now. I'd like to thank Mew who helped run this and Shiggy and NPX for making me piss myself.

I am Keios and I just got PUNKED. Lol. Where were the cameras?

American Hero

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Really it can go two ways, I don't know Keios in person so I can't say. Its hard to call for me. He could really be like that and have gone "undercover" or he really screwed up. And he's a sick twisted fool. But really I'm not gonna judge him from it. Don't anyone call me on that, of course I know how "bad" it is. I don't fucking care about that, even if myo had truly done it I wouldn't care. I don't judge from that shit. I judge from my own perspective by YOU not your sexual preference, not you AGE preference. Now let me back this up:

I have 3 different friends that are girls that were raped. Ones a total bitch, Ones pretty cool. And one was my very best friend for so we even dated. She's graduating and I'll miss her.

I also have stuff from the other side as my bio father whom I've never met, went to jail for the crime. Before I was born though sadly.

EDIT: Oh and I failed to bring in the above post I'm sorry.

Nice call though American Hero, made me laugh. :lol3:

You can't have everything....where would you put it?

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Well you cant tell what really went on from the logs holloway posted he added in all kinds of shit. I would show you the real ones but he banned me from his site.

But for real that shit is fucked up. My little sister got raped by my ex best friend. She's only 7. Im opposite of H. I would judge people for that shit, Find someone your own age.

Now if a 7 year old wants to see 7 year olds thats a different story.

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Call me crazy, but when you say "YOU and not your sexual preference, or your AGE preference"... your preferences is part of what MAKES you who you are.

I'd like to think of myself as the kind of person who tries to see things with an open mind, but when it comes to things like this, I think I can allow myself to succumb to the human nature of judging someone. You touch a child, you don't deserve the life you've been given. I don't care how much you jump up and down and try to explain that the child wanted it too... that child is ill-equipped to truly know what they want and what they don't want in life just yet.

I have two little sisters, and I can't imagine how someone could possibly want to get their rocks off of little kids. It would take an act of God to get me to forgive and forget.

People who are into this shit need the worst kind of punishment imaginable. You touch a kid, you don't deserve to ever see the light of day again. Ever.

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Bloodrose @ Jun 1 2008, 02:36 AM wrote:

People who are into this shit need the worst kind of punishment imaginable. You touch a kid, you don't deserve to ever see the light of day again. Ever.

Okay.
When all of this hapepned I didn't really wanna know what it was all about.
But this topic, kinda took away the need for imagination.

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Wow.....

You don't sign on for a week or so and you really miss a lot. (School, work etc...)

My feelings on this? They've been summed up by most people. It's unforgivable. I haven't seen this original thread nor do I want to. The mere thought of mentioning something like this would grant no forgiveness for me. It is sick, disgusting and deserves no place in this world. It's not going to be some movement that will later be discussed in politics so that someone can have a right to do this shit. I don't care how ill figured someones' mind is but this is just messed.

That's all from me for now.

*Edit*
I just read through it again as I was confused as to what originally happened. My comment still stands on the whole issue and that whether it was a prank or not...well...read the above.

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You've only been gone a week? It feels like I haven't seen you post for a lot longer than that.

(in my heart)


On hiatus. Blame holloway.
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Yea for real were have you been. I started notising a lot of members disapered (Ricoman)

And yes this was all a joke.

simon38 @ Jun 8 2008, 08:41 AM wrote:

this is my first threat in RPG Palace

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Keios @ Jun 1 2008, 05:00 PM wrote:

And yes this was all a joke.

except for you being a paedo

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What the fuck? How the hell, i just did what mew told me to do. I didnt even pm myo until i pmed mew.

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