Ive decided to make my first RPG with this and Im at a loss with the plot part. But heres what I have to start with. Intro Cut Scene: The main character <name to be determined> is collecting <insert food related item here> in the forest during the rain.
Main Character: "Why does gram make me get <food thing> in this weather..."
Main Character Overhears suspicious persons conversation*
Unknown Male: "Be quiet someone might here you and we could be discovered!"
Unknown Female: "In this weather Id doubt anyone was out here..."
*Main Character steps on a twig*
Unknown Female: "It appears we have a guest tonight"
Unkown Male summons a lightning bolt which struck the Main Character leaving him unconsicous.
Fades out then in.
Main Character wakes up in the inn.
*more plot stuff*
*quest to finish gathering the <food item> from the forest*
*makes a quick stop home after gather the <food item> and the maid tells him that grams (Main Characters grandma, parents died the year before) had already went to the castle*
At the annual festivel at the kings castle, two strangers come greeting the king with a strange gift (a diadem). The two strangers makes notice of the main character and Unknown Female sends a seductive smile.
Thats what I have so far, CnC please...
Oh and the diadem was supposed to slowly corrupt the kings mind but he gave it to his daughter as a gift. derr this is basically what the game is about...
My Plot
I think it'll be fine. Obviously it's a little simplistic and nothing unique but that'll do just fine for your first game. Very few people ever release their first attempt so it'll be a good project in which to learn the ropes.
Yah nothing too high-end while you learn the basics and functions of the program. It's neat to work with and you can expand most of RMXP's concepts with it. Good Luck!
Fail. Try again.
Wow, thanks for the constructive critiscism. Heres my try again,
In the world of azeroth, Orcs have been attacking Human villages in the kingdom of Lordaeron. King Terenas sends his son Prince Arthas to meet with Uther Lightbringer a paladin to free the village of the orcs tyranny. After being succesful in doing so, Arthas discovers that grain shipments have been plagued and they were shipped to the other towns in the kingdom. Arthas meets up with Jaina Proudmoore, an apprentice Arch Mage, to investigate the plague and the infected grain. They discover that the plauge was the work of a cult lead by a necromancer called (forgot his name). Arthas slays the necromancer. Arthas heads to another city and says it must be purged, by that he means to kill all its citizens before a Dreadlord ,malganis, kills them and turns them into his minions. The plauge was used to kill the people of Lordaeron so they could be turned into undead minions. Arthas is abandoned by his companions and kills the city. He heads to Northrend, a desolate ice cap, to hunt Malganis. He finds an old dwarf friend , Mauridan, and finds a legendary runeblade called frostmourne. Mauridan says its cursed but Arthas accepts the curse anyway. He comes to a duel with Malganis and malganis asks, what does the dark lord say? The voice coming from the sword says that the vengence of Arthas's people is at hand. Arthas kills malganis right then and there. The sword later corrupts his mind. The sword having fully turning him emo Arthas comes to retrieve the acolytes in hiding from a village in lordaeron. He gets the acoyltes as part of a plan for the dark lord. He kills his father the king and takes control of his kingdom which is being turned to undead slaves. A demon named (forgot his name) is forcing a elf Illidan to do his bidding. THe demon orders Illidan to destroy the frozen throne which the dark lord that speaks to arthas resides. Illidan goes to north rend but meets Arthas who has been commanded by the lich king (dark lord) to save him. Arthas and Illidan duel but Arthas wins. Arthas heads up a spiral staircase made of ice to the frozen throne. He takes frostmourne and shatters the ice that binds the Lich King. Arthas takes the armor that was in the ice and puts it on. His eyes glow blue and you here "No we are one" and the game ends. Derr is that a good story line?
Now, That's just plaguarism! Bip is just like that it seems. However, blunt it may have been, it sends the message "There are lots of flaws with this, you need to rethink it again" in a much more comedic way. I think. At least I hope so.
Now, That's just plaguarism! Bip is just like that it seems. However, blunt it may have been, it sends the message "There are lots of flaws with this, you need to rethink it again" in a much more comedic way. I think. At least I hope so.
I wasted like 20 minutes summing up the warcraft III game. Anyways I never really posted a plot but that was basically the begginning. Of course maybe Ill scrap the crown thing, Im at the part where the Main Character sees the two Unknown People he saw in the forest at the festivel, where should I go from there?
Wooooooow, so THAT'S why I've never played Warcraft. It's story sucks. 
It's an RTS. Well the original Warcraft. I'm impressed they got all that with what they were working with. Great game though. Not sure if you've played it Bip, but it's actually pretty entertaining. Mostly online though where you just destroy things. However, I took more interest in the mass army style RTS's like Age of Empires, Empire Earth (2 was meh) and other various ones released.
But yeah. For the story, it is your own. I'd like to see you go from there, especially at the point that you are at. If I tell you what to do from that point on, that's pretty much turning the game into what I want to see rather than what you want to show me. If that makes any sense to you.
But yeah. For the story, it is your own. I'd like to see you go from there, especially at the point that you are at. If I tell you what to do from that point on, that's pretty much turning the game into what I want to see rather than what you want to show me. If that makes any sense to you.
I know what you mean, Ill come up with some ideas but Id still like a little insight, not something specific but but more general.
Idea A: Character waits till he can get them alone in which he confronts them but they deny everything.
Idea B: Character confronts them right then and their making him seem queer to the other guests.
Idea C: Character waits till he can get them alone and he says he wants in on whatever there doing, they either respond 1) deny everything or 2) they let him in on their plans.
I am leaning toward Idea A or Idea C2. But there is the possibilty he only wants in so he can foil there plans...
Ooh, I got it, he joins them so he can foil there plans but when theyre caught they dont believe him so hes sent to jail, then the town starts suffering from an earthquake caused by the stuff they did in the catacombs in which a boulder breaks a hole in the prison and he is forced to evacuate the town. Then he falls into the river and blacks out, later regains consciousness aboard a ship. The ships captain cant bother to find out what happened to the village because he must deliver an important message to another king because there is an army marching to invade his kingdom. And the King Shanghais the character into his army. Derrrrr how bout that plot?
I like it.. Then again im kinda dumb so i probobly wouldnt listen to me..... And you should post some screen shots so i can see i its beutiful 
Ok first of your stories was quite interesting . a bit similar to Lord of The rings when the Kings mind was controling by Dragontongue, that would be interesting but Why the couple have teleport or bring the boy to rhe Inn?? What for ?? They ratcher suppose to lock him somwhere untill the event with giving the Diadem (of Insanity for eg.) to secure their plans.
Then the boy could escape and notice that those 2ppl that held him in Dungeon or Cell or Dunno Sphere of magic was traitors and he was one of those who could stop their plans so he wants now to help the Majesty.
this is my opinion to the first of your quota
the second one..... omg pal this is Campaign of Human Race from Warcraft 3 ,what you do next?/ a MMORPG ??
Please stay with your first ideas, maybe you are similar to me , I have nice projects that when are completed are quite nice and sometimes great , but when I am saying about them they are bogring and dull ...
make a Demo of your game, use events comands , RGSS etc. and see how hard is to create a game , tjhe IDEA is only 10% of the succes I think , rest are resources that go together in any way , that all of it looks like it was created only for this project and only with this project this is fully compatible ...
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Horus Rules
1st) Do not upload your first PRoject anywhere !!!
(I created more than 15+ projects when I started with any of RMXP communitys and in showing my resources, when I knew my project will be at least accepted and my resources will be usefull to anyone)
2nd) When you are creating a game , your idea of it must first start in your head , that write about heroes ideas events intro whatever , all things in your game, than think about game realities (gods, money , factions, towns , enemys and friends NPC ), than strat your work , you can always add something during creation of the game
3rd) Collect resources or make your own, game will look better if reaources are similar or in smae style or rather fro myour or someone resources than RTP
4th) Remember, game with large size (MP3,Wave,Mass Pictures) is less atractive comparing to game that have 10mb , midi format but great music and 10 hours or more of play...
This is only guide line not a way to cross....
Horusae...The WC3 response he made was just being sarcastic in response to Furdabip's post. Anyways, That plot you wrote out seems pretty interesting. If you will it in with more depth and fill in some of the gaps, it could probe to be really interesting. Personally, I like the cave/earthquake idea. I suppose if you have it start out as a really mysterious beggining to find out who the main character is, then perhaps those choices you listed out could work but remember that is just listing a path rather than the story. I'd like to see you come up with some more dialogue for this. It seems interesting and I think you may have something. At this point, to me this will either fail or succeed based on how you do the different scenes. The specific angle at this point will matter the most in my opinion. Good luck, and keep us posted on more ideas.
Ooh, after the male unknown person strikes him with a lightning bolt he goes unconscious and wakes up in the inn. He learns that his grandma sent her maid to the forest when the main character didnt return home. Ill start a script for the intro cut scenes.:
In the forest west of the village, the main character (name-able) has been sent by his grandma to fetch some herbs that are a key ingrediant in her recipe for the King's Annual Festivel celebrating the birth of his kingdom...
MainChar: Ughh, this rain is terrible. Why does grams make me get those herbs in this weather...
The main character moves towards the thicket and discovers a strange couple he has never seen before.
Male: Shhh, your going to draw attention to us!
Female: It seems weve been discovered...
The male strikes the main character with a lightning bolt and he goes unconscious. The next morning the main character awakes in the inn.
Inn Keeper: Hes awake!
Maid: Your grandmother sent me to look for you when you didnt come back last night, of course I couldnt carry you back myself so I had Garrett (sp?) do it.
Garrett: Oh, your grandma wants you to finish gathering those herbs for the festivel which starts in an hour, so you'd better hurry up.
MainChar: But... *is interupted by Garrett*
Garret shows him what herbs to look for and he gets pushed out the door.
MainChar: *sighs* I guess those two I saw shouldnt still be there...
First Quest: Find and Collect 5 herbs for grandma.
After finishing the quest the mainchar says he better head home with the herbs.
At home:
Maid: Oh hello! Your grandma already went to the castle , she should be in the kitchens cooking.
Main character heads east to the castle and enters the courtyard, then the kitchen. After returning the herbs the Main Character heads back outside and notices the strange couple from last night. After the king makes his annual speech the festivel begins and the couple sneaks off to the kitchens but not before the main character confronts them.
MainChar: Hey! Stop!
Female: Oh, its you... *seductive smile*
Male: I suggest you leave us or you might not just end up unconcious like last time.
MainChar thinks to himself: [i]They were examing the catacombs last night, I bet there up to no good if they dont want anyone to discover there plans. I better find out what there doing...
MainChar: I dont know what your up to, but I want in on it.
Male: Hmm... I guess we could.
Female: What! Your not serious, we couldnt possibly let a wretch like..
Male: Shut up Kay(name subject to change), he might prove useful to our king.
Female: Im not liking this at all Kale(also subject to change)
MainChar: Great! What are you up to then?
Male: Meet us by the waterfall in the forest when the sun goes down, well explain then.
Screen Fades out then In and the main character is in his house several hours later. The Player is hopefully smart enough to go back to the forest. The Main Character meets the two at the waterfall.
Male: We have instructions by whom we serve to investigate these catacombs in search of a lost artifact.
MainChar: Lost artifact? The only thing youll find there is abandoned mining equipment, and probably several goblins.
Male: Thanks for the info, but several years ago, one of the miners made a discovery of a tomb but he kept this secret from his fellow co workers.
MainChar: If it was a secret how could you possibly now this?
Male: That miner was our father, weve been searching for this mine for years but it was only recently that our king told us to search here.
MainChar: What exactly is this ancient artifact anyway? *oh great, I got myself two grave robbers...*
Male: Thats not of your concern at the moment, we shall all find out in due time.
Female: Oh lets get on with it, into the catacombs.
The the two join the players party and they enter the catacombs.
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Plot: The 2 were servants of the king of a kingdom on the bottom of the world (antartica-ish). He sent them on a quest to recover the items of a dead hero. Whoever had the crown of the dead hero could defeat any army, no matter how big or powerful it was. The king was planning to take over the world.
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The following events take place after the 3 raid the tomb and steal his belongings. They fight the ghost of the hero as a boss fight and then they leave. When they return to the village the king orders his guards to sieze them for the raiding of the tomb. In prison, the screen starts shaking because the dead hero angered by the theft of his belongings is causing an avalanche and rocks are rolling down the mountain. One breaks a hole in the prison:
MainChar: Its time to go!
Male: Right you are, I doubt well see eachother anytime soon. But if we do, we wont be so friendly.
The male teleports he and his sister out of the prison. Main Char escapes the prison but a rock hits him on the head and he falls into the river. Screen goes black, time for another cutscene!!!
?????: Hes awake!
?????: Take him to the captain.
The MainChar finds himself on a ship, a small but fast one.
Captain: Alright boy, who are you?
MainChar: Umm, where am I?
Captain: Your aboard the Merserger (greek messeger of the gods), now answer my question.
MainChar: What!? How the hell did I end up on a ship in the sea?
Captain: We found you floating in the water a mile off the coast, you must of fallen in the river and drifted off to sea.
MainChar: Why didnt you just leave me on the beach then?
Captain: Were on an important mission to deliver a message to our king, we do not have time for side stops, now please tell me who you are.
MainChar: Im ________
Captain: Thank you, Im sorry but your going to have to wait till we dock in our ports. Then maybe we can arrange a transport to get you home.
Fades in then out, Main Char is at a port then goes into the castle. The King refuses to spare any ships and enlists the MainChar into his army.
Now this is quite a story pal but.... Castle Walls are rather strong to brake by a rock, if the Couple Kale and Kay know teleportation spell whay they would stay in prison for so long?? till earthquake??
The Hero is bussy one huh From Event to event he is allways on duty in many causes, it`s rather an description of one LINE story . About This couple , they used Hero in their plans right ?? And they are Evil all the time and the Diadem you spoke before is one of the Dead Hero belongins? But if Hero returns to the castle as ex-prisoner why guards didn`t stop him ?? because a lack in troops of the royal army ??
this will be a start of a good game if this things are conected to eac hotcher
the couple
King
Dead hero
and an evil faction that Kay and Kayle are one of members
PS:
Doughter and Son of Miner are now Adepts of magic how is this possible ?? Don`t describe their process in learning in game but don`t leave this alone. Their fatcher could know about the chamber of the Dead Knight(whatever the name is ) but for sure he shouldn`t be the father of them, let`s say that the faction captured a worker from the mine and this event happened in close past and this was the start of the process (Dunno now if Couple is good and their faction is evil but from what you said before this could work describing why they start conspiracy against the king.)
Now this is quite a story pal but.... Castle Walls are rather strong to brake by a rock, if the Couple Kale and Kay know teleportation spell whay they would stay in prison for so long?? till earthquake??
The Hero is bussy one huh From Event to event he is allways on duty in many causes, it`s rather an description of one LINE story . About This couple , they used Hero in their plans right ?? And they are Evil all the time and the Diadem you spoke before is one of the Dead Hero belongins? But if Hero returns to the castle as ex-prisoner why guards didn`t stop him ?? because a lack in troops of the royal army ??
this will be a start of a good game if this things are conected to eac hotcher
the couple
King
Dead hero
and an evil faction that Kay and Kayle are one of members
PS:
Doughter and Son of Miner are now Adepts of magic how is this possible ?? Don`t describe their process in learning in game but don`t leave this alone. Their fatcher could know about the chamber of the Dead Knight(whatever the name is ) but for sure he shouldn`t be the father of them, let`s say that the faction captured a worker from the mine and this event happened in close past and this was the start of the process (Dunno now if Couple is good and their faction is evil but from what you said before this could work describing why they start conspiracy against the king.)
Ill answer your questions in order:
1) The Prison Wing that they are in is above ground, hence a a really huge boulder could break it.
2) The castle the ship returns to is in another kingdom, the king there doesnt know what happened in the other kings kingdom.
3) Kay and Kale are brother and sister, there father is the miner that discovered the tomb. He later sailed south and his ship was marooned on the ice kingdom at the bottom of the world. (Thats explained in another cutscene)
4) The Ice Kingdom had a mages academy, the miner married a female magic teacher and the kids inherited there natural talent from her. (Also in a cutscene)
5) Kay and Kale are on the Frozen Kingdom's King personal agenda. The miner told his wife of the tomb and she found reference of it in an ancient text book. The hero traveled the world and his items were very powerful. When the King heard that his crown could make him immortal his greed got the best of him. Kay and Kale were trained in magic by there mother and trained in the army by the king so they could go out and search for the tomb. Kay and Kale were not originnaly compelled to but when the King threatened to kill there parents, they had no choice.
If you had any other questions Ill be here to answer them. Kay and Kale are neutral so to speak. Im thinking of hiring an artist to draw a world map for my title screen. Is there any artists in this site?
The Merserger is dilivering word that the Frozen Kingdom is preparing to invade a kindom. Kay and Kale are delivering the crown to the king and after they do that he will lead his army to the other kingdoms.
Sorry I just checked you XD
but acctually you passed
Answering a questions about background can test players World invesnion, You answered all my questions so I think you know what your game will be about in quite large percentage of your game.
Did you copy your story and plots into a txt/doc file?? or simple notebook??
This really helps, you can always cut things out or add new paragrapphs ad something at the beggining of the Journey and than use it later .This is really good method.
but I will not stop asking about your game... this project started to interest me really there is small group of people that know what their story is about, usually they open RMXp and than they looka at graphicks and finally they begin thinking of a game... about a knight that is fighting evil and this is his goal to defeat th only evil in the game... isn`t this to ordinary ?? "It`s good to be BAd" to be neutral is great but starting always on bright side , and be borned to defeat Boss one day is ratcher "C" category of a game... I am hoping this project will be at leats B+ game
I am w8ing for the realese of your demo (acctually with standard RTP creating demo for such History is a day of work 
, let`s say 5 horus witch testingXd So show us what you`ve go there pal )
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Aboutt your World ... So mainy what is this game about ?? About just a simple Boy that is involved into this robbery ,
What are the main things, guidelines of your game?
Thanks. Im trying to get through the intro cut scene. Its a bit buggy as of right now but I can post a picture of the forest. A demo might be ready in like a month. Im estimating, maybe sooner maybe later but it will only be like the first chapter, everything I wrote up there. It will probably leave you hanging right at:
King: Im conscripting you into the army, of course youll go through military training first.
MainChar: wtf? (Not litterally what he says but you get the point)
EDIT: Oh snap forgot to answer one of your questions, Kay and Kale didnt teleport out of the prison because the castle mages enchanted the prison cells so that no magic could be used. One of the guards who siezed them was also a mage and binded them before they could teleport. (Standard act of course) The boulder broke the wall and the cell therefore the enchantment was broken. They also had to grab there stuff.
First of all you are using RM2k3 or Tileset from it...
The mountain on the left that is close to waterfall doesn`t have the curve ending witch shadow and it will look better if you make a lake or a river that from that hill falls down. now it look like this water is a Miricle ,water string from heaven above:)
Mapping is quite nice :0 I would give A- for that
Can you send me what you`ve got now to may mail ??
I won`t use it because I use only RMXP now and I simply couldn`t make a crime like that :0
I am just curious how you manage the intro , what events u use and if you have gaps\bugs etc.
I worked on 2k3 before s oI can help a bit while I am doing myself a little break between realese of polish BEta and compleating the Demo for my communityXD
Thanks for pointing out the waterfall, I was more concerned with the trees since they look bad to me but I will probably redo them. I dont know how to fix that waterfall problem really, Im thinking I should add river up there then a river running through the trees with a bridge going across. This makes sense since the hero is supposed to fall into the river. Im new to RPG Maker and I just started it so all I have right now is the setting of the scene (rain, tinting). I made the Kay and Kale I just dont know what events to use for cinematics so theres not much to send as of right now. I also have the pub/inn thing too I just didnt show it.
I have a plot update:
Since the crown is supposed to make the bearer immortal, once the hero gets sent on a mission by his new king to spy on the frozen kingdom he learns from Kale/Kay's mother that to defeat him he is going to need the sword, shield, helm, and armor of the dead hero. He stole these but they were lost at sea, so he goes to some shaman on the eastern plains (of his new king's continent) and he was excpecting him because he had a vision of two 17 and 19 year old boys coming to his lodge asking for some guidance. He tells him the helm had been swallowed by a sea serpent which should be currently located in the northern icecaps, the shield washed up on the beaches of a small island just north of their continent. The Sword had been found by a group of ghost pirates, the armor had sunk to the bottom of the ocean since it was the heaviest and only poseidon could get it for them. (Here comes atlantis!) Also, Garrett had come sailing to the eastern continent for trade, (Garrett is an apprentice blacksmith so he is sent on tradeships to buy some rare minerals) Ive changed Kay's class, she is a rouge. Kale is a battle mage. Also a girl has gone missing in the village and he has to rescue her before the shaman will speak to him. So at the end of the game, The Hero, Garrett, Chinese Girl, Kay, and Kale should be in the heroes party.
Yeah, you definitely need to redo the trees. Also, what I think is a flaw about them is the fact that you have three different types of tree tilesets you are using here. It just doesn't match. I suggest you just use only one type and fix the random top of the tree leaf thing. It just looks weird being so small. As for your game, I'd rather not comment too much right now. The way I see it, it has quite a few flaws from my perspective but I'd rather you show me it when you release your demo. Good luck and I'm glad to see you got a project starting.
I fixed the tree issue, I found out what the other chipsets were for, heres the current result. I think I should fully cover the bottom row of trees with leaves. Image:
Yeah, though you did fix the side issue of that one tree there, it still looks weird to be honest. I don't recommend using different tree tilesets like you have in yours. First, because they don't match both in look and size at all. I recommend scrapping those. Also, when you use the other trees (the majority ones that you used on your map) it looks weird when you make them stand alone and they're not on an edge of a map or connected to anything. it just looks really weird. You should rethink that. It just seems on the large scale that the look doesn't match.
It looks like your Game and History is grownig , now when you have the story you must now Concentrate on your maps and events to show the story in the best way
Yeah, though you did fix the side issue of that one tree there, it still looks weird to be honest. I don't recommend using different tree tilesets like you have in yours. First, because they don't match both in look and size at all. I recommend scrapping those. Also, when you use the other trees (the majority ones that you used on your map) it looks weird when you make them stand alone and they're not on an edge of a map or connected to anything. it just looks really weird. You should rethink that. It just seems on the large scale that the look doesn't match.
I feel the same way but how do you suppose I redo this? Without any suggestions, your post is like a broken record.
Teacher: It looks weird, fix it!
Student: How?
Ill try another attempt at it.
Well it's quite simple. You remove the other tree tiles that you used. Use only one type of title. I figured my post outlined that. The green top of the trees you can connect in some places to make it look like a tree has more leaves and with these types of tiles, don't leave so many spaces in between, it looks pretty weird. Feel free to use the logs, they don't matter and they add more of an effect to the semi-forest map you've got going on there.
So basically, my tips are:
-Remove the smaller tree tiles
-Try and combine some of the bigger tree tiles together, avoiding so many spaces in between them.
-Also, make the top of the trees a tad bigger to resemble that they have a bit more leaves on them in comparison to their trunks
-*this is more of a side thing* When using this type of tileset I recommend not showing the trunk on the edges of the map like the bottom but rather have it show just the green leaves as the border.
Hopefully that helps.
Playable Alpha Test, the cut scene is kinda crappy with the waits out of sync.
http://www.mediafire.com/?9gnix9nd813
Yeeh, how should i say it, the story isn't finished. keep working on it...
Tell me Jgrasfield why is he posting here ?? To achive help in his game, to split good and bad ideas of his own and maybe get some small advise about the game . You can`t say the story isn`t finished because he is still creating his game and I think the Alpha version was to prove his otcher abilities such as Mapping etc.
The progress he made so far is quite good , these whole Ideas could take even 20 mins of play and for a small demo it suits perfectly You know , some games imade I made just for fun within a weak , but games I really care about their finall result ... they are far different than my small RPG for friend that is trying to use my maps and Ideas . Usually games i put some effor in them are at least month of creating (offcorse if I have my DB for the game) Now I am creating new game and I started in October so the game is going to be realese in February 2008 and only in I think 40% . Now Iam trying to create a game with 30 H of play 
Again I just talk 10% of facts and rest is rubish , especially the part when I forgot more suitable word;p
I just got XP and I still need a serial key, at least I have 30 days.
I need chipsets, and alot of them starting with a forest thats like the mac and blue ones.
Fail. Try again.